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2011-12-03T12:42:40Z

Individual-person: /* Welcome, Fellow DIssident -- Robin 23:48, 2 December 2011 (PST) */

== Welcome, Fellow DIssident -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] 23:48, 2 December 2011 (PST) ==

I certainly agree on the ideas of "education" as the transmission of a sick culture, and of apart-ness as a concise explanation of why it is so sick. [[Charles Eisenstein]] calls this '[[:category:separation|separation]]'. He thoughts tally closely with yours, so I suspect you are familiar with his seminal work, [[Ascent of Humanity]] -- if not, I ''highly'' recommend it.

[[User:Robin|Robin]] 23:48, 2 December 2011 (PST)

===Re: Welcome, Fellow DIssident -- [[User:Individual-person|Individual-person]] 04:42, 3 December 2011 (PST)===

Thanks for the welcome. I have read Eisenstein (actually I listened to yours and Lyn Gerry's reading of his book; thanks so much for that). I agree with Eisenstein about a lot of things though, deep as they are, I don't think his diagnosis and prescription are deep enough. For example, I think the culture of apartness informs our conception of Logic in very important ways. For example, the so called Aristotelian "Laws of Thought" express a kind of intrinsically dichotomous exclusivistic "or-based" thinking that I believe actually is a kind of Left-brain manifestation of the over activation of the Fight or Flight mechanism of the brain that is the usual result of child abuse (what we call child-abuse has been the historical norm of childrearing since probably before civilization--see Lloyd DeMause, Alice Miller etc. I think if one includes more subtle forms, it is the norm today). Anyway, its an involved thesis, but suffice to say that the collective trauma of humanity suffers from and transmits across time through is formal and informal forms of education is only reinforced by the latent and tacit influence of our forms of inner and outer logic and discourse, and that there is an alternative inclusive multivalued Logic (I call it Life-Logic), that is based on a concept of "Co-inference" (conference) and that this inclusive logic is based on, and so can nourish collaborative, "Both/And" assumptions, axioms, and intentions that privilege and reinforce Togetherness rather than the dominant Logic of unilateral inference based on competitive and alienated assumptions, axioms and intentions, assumptions that privilege and reinforce apartness and separation. More later.

there is also the related difference that, rather than the implying a "gift" economy (which still seems to involve a concept of private property--of property as unilaterally "belonging-to" someone and unilaterally changing hands without fundamentally changing its essentially alienated nature), my conception of healthy culture involves establishing a conception intrinsically property in which a tentative state "Belonging-With", is established collectively, not by unilateral inference but by multilateral'' Co-inference'' (what I call Cointegrative Conference). Imagine a kind of communal or civil "auction" in which things don't have prices but ''stories'' and in which the "bids" are not in money but in the various ideas of a communal brainstorm about where the entities in question belong (where they should be situated so as to be likely to produce inner/outer healing). This brainstorm of course would be based on the story of where the entity(s) came from and what the are as they relate to the stories that emerge as the various "bidders" explain and justify their ideas. Any Consensus facilitated would determine the fate of the object until the decision should be challenged, perhaps because of changing circumstance. This tentative the state of belonging-with would be challengable at any time, calling for some form of conference to reconsider the issue. You might say that in this model "contracts" understood as multilateral agreements as to the temporary "propriety" of a given state of affairs--are concieved as ''Living Contracts'' whose regular "food" is inclusive and fair conference, so that any such contract not regularly renewed by such inclusive conference can be declared "dead of starvation" (the ''quality'' of the conference establishing a certain state of affairs can also be challenge, which would be analogous to a claim that the contract is not "unfed" but "ill-fed", that it is invalid because of the "malnutrition" of unfair conference" rather than from a lake of conference altogether).

Its important to say that the above sketch is a bit misleading in that the primary goal of the conference in question would be inner/outer healing so that the appropriate disposition of goods and services would just be an important secondary result or aspect of such conference, which must be understand to be about healthy culture in general and to transcend economics and any other limited and circumscribed discipline or field of study.

There is a great deal more to all of this of course. I hope one day to illustrate the above as well as much else in the context of the living example of an intentional community that will be a kind of healthy culture pilot project. For now I just wanted to share this much as a conversation opener.

Take Care,

--I-P

User:Individual-person

2011-11-26T14:14:07Z

Individual-person: Introduction to myself and the idea of Healthy Culture

Healthy Culture

About me 1: “Truth is the First casualty of War. It is also the first condition of Peace”

“Everybody has a piece of the Truth and every body has a piece of the Lie.”

—I-P

We all live in, are infected by, and suffer from, a sick Culture of Apart-ness, of Alienation. This culture, like all culture is comprised of Cosmology, Identity, Ritual, and Infrastructure. In the case of the dominant culture this means; a Cosmology of Apart-ness, an Identity-Politics of Apart-ness, Rituals of (inner and outer) Apart- ness, and Infrastructures of Apart-ness. Education (formal and informal) is the transmission of culture, and in our case it is the transmission of this sick culture. The factional political paradigms of our time (including those based on race, gender, class, political party, nationality, even species) are all symptoms of, rather than cures for, this condition of sick culture. As such, none of them have any potential at all for changing anything that matters in any sustainable way. We have no time for this.

Since sick culture is the problem, it follows that Healthy Culture is the solution. So what is Healthy Culture and how does it manifest on the collective, political Level? Glad you asked. This question is explored on my two motime blogs :cointegrativescience.us.splinder.com and lifedancelog.us.splinder.com. There I write of an extremely small, but vital and replicable, Cultural Pilot Project that is currently being attempted in the cultural microclimate of Twin Oaks Intentional community in Virginia involving the practice of Healthy Culture; its cosmology of Togetherness (Cointegrative Science), its Identity-Politics of Togetherness (Individual-Personhood), it’s Rituals of Togetherness (Life-Dance rituals) and its Infrastructure of Togetherness.

About Me 2:

I suppose the most salient thing I could say about me as an individual is the following: For me, being in this world has always been like coming into a restaurant and discovering gang rape happening in the middle of the room, looking around horrified, and discovering further that all the other customers still seem to be still trying to “make the best of things” and “enjoy their evening” (if this simile fails it is because what is happening in the world is more, rather than less criminally stupid and obscene than a gang rape).

Later on I realized that the "rape" only seems to me to be happening in the middle of the room. Evidently, for most people the scene is really going on off in a corner somewhere shielded both by a circle of Guards with sunglasses and prominently displayed weapons as well as by a screen put up by the restaurant owner to protect the sensibilities of his customers. I guess most people can barely hear the screams over the conversation and loud music. Nevertheless, this rape has always been for me the main and most obvious thing that was happening in the room and the whole idea of “making the best of it” and “enjoying my evening” has always seemed to me obscenely crass, even somewhat ghoulish, and at any rate basically impossible. There is no “best” to make of such a situation. The only decent and sensible thing has always seems to be to consider that ones evening is simply “ruined” for the purposes of “private enjoyment” and resolve to spend the time (the rest of ones life i mean) trying to figure out what is really going on and how to stop it.

Now this is not to say that I have not been (and continue to be) temporarily distracted. Its just that the various mechanisms of “distraction maintenance” (drugs, alcohol, entertainment, consumption,”art” competition,”work”, the soap opera of “relationships” etc) have never caught on with me in such a way as to keep my mind away from the main thing that is happening for very long at all. I suppose one or more of them might have done so if I'd “applied myself” but I have never been able to see the point in any of that, even from a purely selfish point of view. I mean to me, being fully alive means being fully responsive to what is really happening both inside and outside oneself, not being numb to it.

Anyway,the upshot of this quirk in my basic personality has been a long odyssey that began with an intuitive attempt to try to stay outside of the general situation myself and figure out what was going on before I just became a part of what was going on–-or more a part than I already was (I guess another rather unusual thing about me was that I was so clear that the confusion and stupidity going on outside of me was to some extent also going on inside of me as well). I therefor tried to stay more or less on the margins,politely ignoring the people who were winking at me, haling me from their tables and offering me martinis etc…, and trying, through all the smoke and noise, to get some useful insight into what was going on,

I was 24 or so before I began arrive at what seemed to me to be some useful and real answers. In the 20 years since then, I have gotten a lot more. These days, I have taken to calling this “main thing happening in the room” (well not only the rape but the whole situation inclusive of and enabled by everybody present in it) “sick culture”, and my life is basically about the co-creation of what I call “Healthy Culture” as a kind of cultural twelve-step program that is meant to be, not only an alternative to complete capitulation to the prevailing inner and outer craziness and lose-lose stupidity, but a long term cure for it.

There is a great deal to Healthy Culture (it is as simple and as complicated as Sick Culture), but the gist of it is in the two paragraphs of “About me1”. Please contact me (individualperson1@gmail.com) if you have and comments, questions, criticisms, and/or desire to participate in this experiment in inner and outer healing. I-P

cointegrativescience.us.splinder.com, lifedancelog.us.splinder.com